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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 6:05PM #61
Justin
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Jul 16, 2010 -- 6:04PM, Jack wrote:


AI Bots do suck compared to online matches.


 


I can try online multiplayer, but then I wouldn't walk 10 feet away from spawn point and survive, let alone get any kills.


 


In AI Enemy Battle, I can capture all data posts and get a 23 kill streak with no deaths.


 


It's the only reason I'm a level 99 recruit.


 


The only thing that resembles online pretty well is the plasma grenade spamming, they really hit the spot with that.


 


 





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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 6:10PM #62
Justin
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Updated The OP with Persona's feel free to help out coming up with new ones and let me know if some weapons or abilitys would fit personas better than what I cam up With.

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 6:23PM #63
gabriel
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Jul 16, 2010 -- 11:07AM, Justin wrote:


Jul 16, 2010 -- 11:02AM, GalaxySpider wrote:


Jul 16, 2010 -- 7:32AM, gabriel wrote:


 wow i never got chhainkilled from any vs's i still dont  see how it wass inbalanced. truthhfully it was more balanced thhan it is now, most of thhe weapons strngths are o much and thhe weak ones are to weak. thhe games wasnt dead till thhe patches made it less competitive and more easy to exploit  having no skill. hence the word skill if you have it you have it if you dont you dont. this conversation is getting old people you cant say itss unbalanced  jusst cause you lose alot. if they were to swiitch thhe sgtrengthhs and weapons of dmc 4 or gow3  you would whine saying its imbalanced  this is an action adventure more than a shooter. ai fill slot will only work on the original settings.


 


the game is dead because all thhey did was release gay patches and crappy dlc  somehow ign went from 6.5 to 5.5 yep it lost sscore hmmmmm whats that mean




 


Losing a lot? Let me tell you something. My K/D in ranked team elimination matches is above 3.00!! I reached "Overlord" rank in less than 70 games.


 


And yes, a VS camping guy on the other side on a huge map with a sniper like cannon isn't unbalanced....that's why the VS cannons in LP1 also had infinite ammo *ironic mode* There was a reason for having limited ammo for such a highly useful and powerful weapon. One of the most deadliest VS guns in the whole game. On certain maps post grab or counter grab became pure nonsense especially, just because of this one single weapon.


And no I had/have no problems defending against those VS whores ^^ and as I said before, I'm not losing many games, but after the patch players are using the VSs wisely and not spamming the crap out of the cannon. That's a significant difference, especially in RANKED matches where the skill reflects the result of a match, and not a single VS and its cannon. The overall balance was simply pathetic. I have nothing against VSs, but I dont like unbalanced weapons.


Weak weapons are still weak? Flamethrower? The flamethrower was totally useless in multiplayer and with Patch 1 it became a deadly weapon, just like the revolver and the shotgun.


 


 


 


Oh and the game is "dead" because:


- people complain about the lag and missing online features like region filters everywhere, even in reviews


- its not a standard shooter >>> not easy to play >>> people automatically dont like it (most casuals)


- everything is so "slow" and not fast paced like COD4 etc.


and the list goes on. It's definiteley not because of a single patch, otherwise I could read right here, in this forum, which is a fan forum btw, hundreds of posts about a "game-killing" patch or something. But you are the first one who said this. If that is your opinion, ok. But it's a bit far fetched if you ask me. 


The dlc is indeed crappy. Or better: too expensive (cauz we all know the maps already, old stuff for a high price...).


 


It's offtopic anyway. Just stating my opinion and saying that a single patch not "ruined" LP2.


 





as Off Topic that may seem I found a way to make it more on topic: You said the game is dead or dying, what I am trying to do with AI Fill is allow those players that stay true to LP2, to have 16 player matches like it was always meant to have without needing a bunch of real players that probably already traded their game.





 


ill never sell it unless i really need to but unless this gets passed i havent even got to 99 on any of them cause i can only play for about an hour every week or two i have beaeverything except extreme because i got bored looking at the same thing day in day out. back on topic ifg they just made the ai modeled after the   best players inststead of noobs. it could work

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 6:27PM #64
Justin
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Jul 16, 2010 -- 6:23PM, gabriel wrote:


Jul 16, 2010 -- 11:07AM, Justin wrote:


Jul 16, 2010 -- 11:02AM, GalaxySpider wrote:


Jul 16, 2010 -- 7:32AM, gabriel wrote:


 wow i never got chhainkilled from any vs's i still dont  see how it wass inbalanced. truthhfully it was more balanced thhan it is now, most of thhe weapons strngths are o much and thhe weak ones are to weak. thhe games wasnt dead till thhe patches made it less competitive and more easy to exploit  having no skill. hence the word skill if you have it you have it if you dont you dont. this conversation is getting old people you cant say itss unbalanced  jusst cause you lose alot. if they were to swiitch thhe sgtrengthhs and weapons of dmc 4 or gow3  you would whine saying its imbalanced  this is an action adventure more than a shooter. ai fill slot will only work on the original settings.


 


the game is dead because all thhey did was release gay patches and crappy dlc  somehow ign went from 6.5 to 5.5 yep it lost sscore hmmmmm whats that mean




 


Losing a lot? Let me tell you something. My K/D in ranked team elimination matches is above 3.00!! I reached "Overlord" rank in less than 70 games.


 


And yes, a VS camping guy on the other side on a huge map with a sniper like cannon isn't unbalanced....that's why the VS cannons in LP1 also had infinite ammo *ironic mode* There was a reason for having limited ammo for such a highly useful and powerful weapon. One of the most deadliest VS guns in the whole game. On certain maps post grab or counter grab became pure nonsense especially, just because of this one single weapon.


And no I had/have no problems defending against those VS whores ^^ and as I said before, I'm not losing many games, but after the patch players are using the VSs wisely and not spamming the crap out of the cannon. That's a significant difference, especially in RANKED matches where the skill reflects the result of a match, and not a single VS and its cannon. The overall balance was simply pathetic. I have nothing against VSs, but I dont like unbalanced weapons.


Weak weapons are still weak? Flamethrower? The flamethrower was totally useless in multiplayer and with Patch 1 it became a deadly weapon, just like the revolver and the shotgun.


 


 


 


Oh and the game is "dead" because:


- people complain about the lag and missing online features like region filters everywhere, even in reviews


- its not a standard shooter >>> not easy to play >>> people automatically dont like it (most casuals)


- everything is so "slow" and not fast paced like COD4 etc.


and the list goes on. It's definiteley not because of a single patch, otherwise I could read right here, in this forum, which is a fan forum btw, hundreds of posts about a "game-killing" patch or something. But you are the first one who said this. If that is your opinion, ok. But it's a bit far fetched if you ask me. 


The dlc is indeed crappy. Or better: too expensive (cauz we all know the maps already, old stuff for a high price...).


 


It's offtopic anyway. Just stating my opinion and saying that a single patch not "ruined" LP2.


 





as Off Topic that may seem I found a way to make it more on topic: You said the game is dead or dying, what I am trying to do with AI Fill is allow those players that stay true to LP2, to have 16 player matches like it was always meant to have without needing a bunch of real players that probably already traded their game.





 


ill never sell it unless i really need to but unless this gets passed i havent even got to 99 on any of them cause i can only play for about an hour every week or two i have beaeverything except extreme because i got bored looking at the same thing day in day out. back on topic ifg they just made the ai modeled after the   best players inststead of noobs. it could work





We are working on the Difficulty of the AI by adding:


-Voting system (players vote on the difficulty of the AI consisting of: Easy, normal,Hard, and Extreme [Exreme allows AI's to have super abilitys along with their regular abilitys super abilitys are 3x health, 2x damage, and VS Snagging])


-Persona's

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 7:01PM #65
Daniel
Posts: 171

The persona's need to be a little more varied. for example Offensive Stealth, Offensive Assault, Defensive Stealth, and Defensive Assault.  (The Doctor persona is its own catergory). I'll explain one of the personas.


Offensive Stealth:


Weapons:


Energy Gun, Machine Gun II, or Gunsword


Flamethrower, Shotgun SP, and Shotgun II


Rifle SP or Rifle I


Rocket Launcher I or Plasma Cannon


V Device SP or Injection Gun II.


Abilties:


T-ENG Weapon Mastery I


Invisible


Task:


Data Post battle: Aims mainly to grab data posts.


Team Elimination: Attempts to catch enemies by surprise


Counter Grab: Attempts to get to post first and grab it.


VS Annihilator: Causes damage to foot soldiers


This is still a work in progress


 

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 8:49PM #66
Justin
Posts: 811

Jul 16, 2010 -- 7:01PM, Daniel wrote:


The persona's need to be a little more varied. for example Offensive Stealth, Offensive Assault, Defensive Stealth, and Defensive Assault.  (The Doctor persona is its own catergory). I'll explain one of the personas.


Offensive Stealth:


Weapons:


Energy Gun, Machine Gun II, or Gunsword


Flamethrower, Shotgun SP, and Shotgun II


Rifle SP or Rifle I


Rocket Launcher I or Plasma Cannon


V Device SP or Injection Gun II.


Abilties:


T-ENG Weapon Mastery I


Invisible


Task:


Data Post battle: Aims mainly to grab data posts.


Team Elimination: Attempts to catch enemies by surprise


Counter Grab: Attempts to get to post first and grab it.


VS Annihilator: Causes damage to foot soldiers


This is still a work in progress


 





I'm not sure if an AI can catch people by surprise, but if you can get 3 more people to agree it will be added to the OP Persona section.


That goes for everyone I'm all for whatever Persona you guys come up with as long you have at least 3 people backing it.

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 9:29PM #67
Stealth2Death
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I'm up for anyones ideas I will support some if they are good cause I'm not the kind of person who is good at making good ideas.


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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 9:34PM #68
gabriel
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ok i am note doing the quote thing cause it takes up to much space. but 3xhealth isnt fair to anyone. the damage and vs usage abilitys sound good. but everyone always complains and b**ches about everyone ussing vs's sso  youre gonna hear crying and whineing  but thhe 2x damage makess the best sense seeing as with the stun it can make for a small challenge of hitting them first. one of my ssuggestions is when the match starts it does not tell the names of thhe ai so that way no one can do easy picking.

i support prop 23 ai fill slot

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 9:35PM #69
Justin
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Can I get a status on how many of the unsupporters still don't support this? or have we changed your minds yet?


from my Knowledge these are the people who are un-supporters:

  • Justice (I think...hard to tell)
  • Galaxy Spider
  • Ripple
  • Gabriel (you used to be a supporter but I think you changed your mind right?)
  • Robot Boot

Are there any other problems we should address?

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2010 - 9:37PM #70
Justin
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Jul 16, 2010 -- 9:34PM, gabriel wrote:


ok i am note doing the quote thing cause it takes up to much space. but 3xhealth isnt fair to anyone. the damage and vs usage abilitys sound good. but everyone always complains and b**ches about everyone ussing vs's sso  youre gonna hear crying and whineing  but thhe 2x damage makess the best sense seeing as with the stun it can make for a small challenge of hitting them first. one of my ssuggestions is when the match starts it does not tell the names of thhe ai so that way no one can do easy picking.





Alright my one of my solutions (3x health, 2x damage, VS Scavenger) is very un-popular, even though it was only if they were set on expert, scratch those ideas then, sorry

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