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Would you buy a Lost Planet 2 "Colonies Edition" game? If.....
9 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2010 - 12:33AM #1
daYuckyBirdBath
Posts: 26

1. It was Multiplayer Only


So that every thing can fit on the disc with credit for everything already unlocked in LP2. A timely release date. And maybe some new weapons. Not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just perfect the ride.


 


2. It had all Maps and Game types from previous versions of the game Plus 8 new maps


I miss Lost Coast and The Hive and I never get to play any ranked DLC maps.


 


3. It had "Join game in progress" "Party Mode"


This will guarantee full matches for people that just want to play. Not to mention we have been asking for this for a LONG time.


 


4. Fully customizable controls for Your guy and Mech.


I want more control then a "B for everything" button.


 


5. $30 with a May 2011 release date for PS3 and 360. PC ???


I would rather pay $30 for a new disc then to chance $30 in DLC that I might not be able to play. Release date is roughly 4 months away. Plenty of time.


 


 


I think I'm getting close to my 1200th multiplayer match and I want more and am willing to pay more. I have been playing this game every day since release. I know a ton of things can be added to this list in regard to "fixes" but a brand new disk with a minimum of the 5 things I mentioned would guarantee a purchase from me.


If we can buy a new COD disc every year, a special edition LP2 can't be too much to ask for, right? I'm confident that Jun Takeuchi can make this happen.


 


Who is with me? What are your thoughts?

9 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2010 - 4:34AM #2
Feral Manx
Posts: 1,113

Not unless:


6. No more retardedly nigh-impossible Achievements/Trophies linked to acquiring Leaderboards noms. 


I'm not much of an achievement hunter, myself. Granted, I am horrible about being a completionist, so if there's a piece of equipment/costume/bonus character or whatever in a game, I go out of my way to unlock it. After I got done leveling up all of my factions to 99, got every character part, and unlocked every weapon and grenade all that remained were acquiring Noms de Guerre. Having one that's almost impossible to get due to the fact a large number of people use glitches to get unbeatable times (unless you somehow luck out and cheat better than they did) annoys me to no end. 


Especially since the community, back when we actually had one for this game, tried to bring it to Capcom's attention repeatedly in hopes of getting some sort of leaderboard updates so everyone would get a fair chance. No dice. 


7. Capcom actually bothered to do anything about bugs/glitches that may be in the Colonies edition, and stays on top of communicating with its fan-base. 


After how this community, game, and franchise has been abandoned by its creators, I'm incredibly wary to drop any more money into the Lost Planet series. I love'em to death, don't get me wrong. But considering there's practically a communications black-out between us and Capcom, on a Capcom-sponsored forum it should raise some red flags. When the PS3/360 players pointed out glitches and bugs in the game, they were never resolved. When the PC players were stuck with a broken-ass release (the whole GFWL/Steam problem), they barely got so much as a confirmation of "Hey, we're working on it." and were left in the dark for a while before the game was "fixed". And I say "fixed" very loosely because there's still a plague of people finding new and exciting ways to cheat their **** off in multiplayer using hacks, which Capcom has done nothing about. 


If I'm going to actually buy anything else LP-related, Capcom's got a lot of apologizing to do towards its fans for how they handled (or, namely, didn't handle) LP2. 


8. Plasma Cannon SP gets a nerf, we get to shoot homing rockets out of the air again, and the splash-damage for the regular Rocket Launcher gets put back to how it was originally. 


I'm sick of bunny-hopping Plasma Cannon SPs thermal-locked with Injection Gun II. I hate that something as lame as a homing rocket can't be countered by shooting it out of the air, and instead I have to go try to find cover or stop whatever it is I'm doing and time my roll to get out of being killed. Also, I hate that a classic weapon like the original Rocket Launcher barely has any splash damage compared to how it used to be, since having to practically hit somebody dead-on with it makes it borderline useless since LP2 has the Handcannon. 


The changes to the weapons that were applied with the patch made multiplayer kind of suck. 


9. REGULARLY UPDATED/RESET LEADERBOARDS. 


10. Expanded Campaign chapters. 


Campaign was the real blood-and-guts of the game, but it was a little too short. I don't care if the story was kind of lacking, or that my character's mouth didn't move in cut-scenes, or whatever the hell else people whined about. Just more campaign that I can play co-op with people. The more there is to do in campaign, the less I have to deal with the game's annoying-as-hell versus modes. 


11. No player-rank BS. 


The whole player-rank system was retarded. And I don't mean that figuratively. I mean the system itself, which was coded and implemented, the one that determines your player-rank promotions/demotions, has Down's Syndrome. Whatever black magic/voodoo it runs on does not work very well. The only bragging rights you actually get for achieving Overlord is the right to brag of having the saint-like patience it takes to get it, in which you could've just used that time and energy to find something better to play. 


12. More character models. 


Sorry, but I like playing dress-up. :P Half the fun of the game's replayability was the fact you could unlock more stuff from the slot-machines and get more weapons, but a lot of the fun was getting some new character part to put on your guy. 


13. Regularly released DLC.


The DLC for this game has a history of pure sucktitude. Map Packs were great, but nobody ever played them because I think only like, twelve people bought them, so that didn't pan out too well. The Boss Rush-Mode DLC? Awful. It was missing half of the bosses and the difficulty level couldn't be adjusted to actually make it challenging. It was good for like, 1 play-through, but you got a funny costume for it. After the novelty of laughing at "HEY DUDE! TRY TO ACTIVATE ME! LOLOLOLOLOL!" shenanigans with the Post-Modern skin, it dawns on you that you've essentially just spent like, $12 on a character model. 


I'd be more keen on buying the Colonies edition if I knew I had more than some half-assed Boss Rush and map-packs I never get to play to look forward to in terms of DLC.


 


Those are what would coerce me into buying an LP2:C edition. Yes, I'm aware that it's a long list that's essentially a "Capcom, ya dun goofed!" complaints. But if they weren't legitimate complaints, this forum and the GameFAQs forums would have more than 12 people collectively posting in them, don't you think? 


 

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9 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2010 - 5:22AM #3
Russell
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No.

We didn't even get a answer yet from SOMEONE who said there will be more updates on the game after they were finished with the pc version..........

I mean, there's even a thread asking for answers but he hasn't even answered it.

There just making lame excuses, I would appreciate it, if they would make a thread saying

"Guys, sorry we are done with this game"
9 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2010 - 5:49PM #4
Jwhude
Posts: 754

No, instead of wasting their time with something dumb like that fix the basic version of the game.

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9 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2010 - 8:55PM #5
Chad
Posts: 890

It's too late. Unfortunately, Capcom allowed Lost Planet 2 to die. It's multiplayer community is so small, it wouldn't even be worth it. I mean, who would buy it? It's come to the point where i'm only playing maybe once or twice a month now. That's pretty bad considering I used to be a VERY hardcore Lost Planet fan.


It's a shame it's come to this. And seriously Capcom, shame on you guys. Heh, and you guys wonder why your sales are down. Go figure...


 


 


 


 


 


 

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9 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2010 - 11:39PM #6
SDF1
Posts: 137

I'd buy it and hope that people were on.  It's neither the game nor Capcom's fault, in reality, that no one's playing it.  It's sort of for the same reason that not everyone under the sun is playing Virtual On.  They're both great games, but so "arcadey" that people eschew them for other titles where the playing field is more equalized.  Losing is not conducive to being entertained for most people, and new people get eaten alive in Lost Planet if they don't come to understand the animation penalties and invulnerability frames.  For them, everything makes more sense in Halo/CoD.


I finally got to play a decent number of ranked matches with 12 or so people last week and don't even think the weapon layouts are that unbalanced anymore.  I was able to stand against, or even dominate, the homing rocket launcher and plasma gun sp types with my standard setup.  Most of it involves just knowing where to be, always watching the radar and listening for sounds...  LP can be more espionage-like than Metal Gear sometimes.

9 years ago  ::  Dec 07, 2010 - 9:26PM #7
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Posts: 45

Fix the oustanding issues.


Fix the Overlord/Ranking and Leader Boards.


Make the achivements achievable (the easier to get the more copies they will sell - simple)


and then


 


Yes, YES I WILL !!


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9 years ago  ::  Dec 08, 2010 - 3:41PM #8
Feral Manx
Posts: 1,113

Dec 6, 2010 -- 11:39PM, SDF1 wrote:


I'd buy it and hope that people were on.  It's neither the game nor Capcom's fault, in reality, that no one's playing it.  It's sort of for the same reason that not everyone under the sun is playing Virtual On.  They're both great games, but so "arcadey" that people eschew them for other titles where the playing field is more equalized.  Losing is not conducive to being entertained for most people, and new people get eaten alive in Lost Planet if they don't come to understand the animation penalties and invulnerability frames.  For them, everything makes more sense in Halo/CoD.


I finally got to play a decent number of ranked matches with 12 or so people last week and don't even think the weapon layouts are that unbalanced anymore.  I was able to stand against, or even dominate, the homing rocket launcher and plasma gun sp types with my standard setup.  Most of it involves just knowing where to be, always watching the radar and listening for sounds...  LP can be more espionage-like than Metal Gear sometimes.




Umm, yes it is. The game was released with some issues, which were never resolved. These issues stemmed from both multiplayer versus balancing as well as actual glitches within the game (such as the infamous, widely-reported Leaderboard time glitch people were using to get NUMBER 1 noms).


They released a patch to the game, which took the bite out of campaign (which lots of hardcore players like myself disliked due to the decrease in difficulty) as well as "resolved" multiplayer versus issues. Unfortunately their patch made things worse, due to throwing the weapon balance off even further. Arguably, the best thing about that entire patch was the increased sprinting-speed, and not much else.


Outside of messing with the game, Capcom's utter negligence with the LP2 community has lead to the forums becoming ghost-towns.

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9 years ago  ::  Dec 08, 2010 - 4:54PM #9
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There is no point in making LP2 Colonies. Face it guys.. No financial point and that`s the major factor for  Capcom decisions . LP was a succes that`s why we had LP Colonies. LP2 is a fail and they won`t make Colonies Edition. We should expect LP3 earlier. But i wonder how they are going to do that without Kenji Inafune...


My personal opinion is not to make Colonies Edition. There is so many things to repair in LP2 that it will be easier to make completely new game (but in original style - LP1 style please !!!!!!!!!! ). It will be also easier to sell it cause it won`t have a bad fame LP2 has.

9 years ago  ::  Dec 09, 2010 - 2:11AM #10
daYuckyBirdBath
Posts: 26

Here's the thing. I paid my 60 bucks and I enjoyed the game. I play it everyday and I'm actually waiting for a match to start right now. My 60 bucks was well spent. This game has kept me entertained. Sure there are some issues but there is nothing that BREAKS the game. I have played games that I would NEVER play again in my life. A game that you will not play is what I call a bad game. LP2 is not a bad game. Not perfect but far from being bad.

That being said I work for a software company and I can tell you that at my company if one of our products didn't meet expected sales there would be NO UPDATES and little support. So for anybody thats living in the illussion that there is going to be some type of free update or free DLC for a game that didn't meet expectations you are living in a dream world. The writing was on the wall last summer.

Now in the real world the only forseeable update is going to be when LP3 is released and I don't see that happening until at least 6 months after the next gen consoles are released which probably won't be until 2013. That means LP3 would come out in 2014. Which is kool and dandy but I don't want to wait that long to play the old maps with the new abilities. That's all I want is the old maps. 

The only way we are going to get some maps and an update is for Capcom to release another disc. That's the only safe way they can recoup. They have already tried a paid DLC and that failed because not enough people downloaded them. 

The old maps are already designed and I'm guessing they probably have about 8 unreleased maps for LP2. Most of the fixes like "leaderboard" and "weapon balance" are easy fixes. If Capcom puts out a disc for $30 buck with just multiplayer, updates, some goodies, and no campaign, they can recoup.

The reason why they shouldn't put the campaign on the disc is because we need all the space on the disc for the maps. Plus the updates for the campaign can be installed on the console from the disk. Not to mention it creates a expansion pak situation where if you want the benefits of the updates for the campaign you have to have both disc which could increase sales for the original game.

It's a win-win solution. Capcom basically gets $30 for an update because everything design wise is already done and we benefit because we get all the maps. This is something that can't be done thru DLC with the same financial affect. This is actually very similar to the business model used for  "colonies".


A low ball figure for this release would be an expectation of 100,000 copies sold for each console over the course of 2 months. That's doable and worth it . Keep in mind that current sales are about 500,000 copies sold for each console since release.

All we have to do is show Capcom that we will support another disk. It's worth it. 


 


Now excuse me, Neos is calling!Cool

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